So I have to disagree with most folks on this thread. Clear editor. Dealers. The Burstbucker 1 is underwound and has a low output. I don't know for sure if it does mean anything, but I also started to dig the BBs when I started to play p90-equipped guitars. Not so shrill on the high end. i have a bonamassa les paul with burstbucker 2-3 and i'm addicted . They clean up very well when rolling the volume back and sound great for leads. But....there's alway a but, I just bought a 2016 ES 335 from CME/Reverb and it has BurstBuckers. '57 Classic vs 490T / 490R. Budman2k Member. I thought it was the BB Pros that come in Standard's that are wax potted? Im Board seit: 18.05.14 Zuletzt hier: 2.08.20 Beiträge: 123 Kekse: 389 Erstellt: 26.01.17 #1. Auch wenn Cookies Ihnen auf den Keks gehen, leisten unsere einen wichtigen Beitrag für ein tolles Einkaufserlebnis. 2:10. We all perceive things differently, that's for sure!!!!! I think the 57 classics are rather thin sounding, and I demand a round, fat tone from my Gibsons, so Id go Burstbucker. -- Default Mobile Style I used to be really satisfied with my 61, but know I'm GAS'n for that VOS or at least the BB 1 and 2's....I did not have a chance to play with any distorted tones so I don't know how the pickups would behave that way. I'd have to spend more time with both to know for sure. They are the only bb's that are wax potted. the VOS is not that much different from the 61 reissue in terms of wood, and build.... as far as playing through a clean bassman, the BB 1 and 2's sound much bigger than the 57's, and I'm liking them better. Messages 962. I also have a 61 RI and imo, the 57's sound fuller and thicker than the bb 1 and 3's. What are the thoughts on this comparison? Burstbucker 3 vs Burstbucker Pro. BB1/2 are the best pickups Gibson is currently making imo. I played a 61 reissue immediately next into the same amp. Der zwischendurch empfohlene Duncan SH-4 ist ein ziemlich hochohmiger Alnico 5- Pickup mit einem hörbaren "Upper Mid Spike". If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Reactions: dani_boy79. The 57 Classics and Burstbucker 1, 2, and 3 all use the same magnet type (Alnico II). I can't seem to find this exact topic by searching, so I'm asking. I had one of those recent white SG's with BB1 and BB3 w/coil splitting. Unter den Gibson- Pickups kommt ihm der 498T am nächsten, ohne … Quote; Share this post. Építő zselék, porcelánok, színes zselék és gél lakkok UV lámpák, csiszológépek, díszítők, műkörmöm kellékek széles választéka. Also, I was planning to get a burstbucker 2 to replace the 57 classic + (but I couldn't find a guitar with stock burstbucker 2 in the bridge). I 've been considering an SG W/coil tap. The BBs make the SG sound somewhat richer, less 'regular' with those clicks and pops I've learned to appreciate on my VOS Les Paul. It sounded less chimey and smoother. I swapped the bb pros out of a chambered studio and put in a 57 classic in the neck, and a 57 classic plus in the bridge. Joined: Oct 22, 2016 Messages: 96 Likes Received: 92 Location: Valley of the Sun in AZ. Joined Jan 2, 2009 Messages 25 Reaction score 10. Burstbucker The follow-up model of the 57-Classic Humbucker, With a little more output, Gold cover . I think a BB2 would be good for the bridge or a 500t. 57' Classic vs Burstbucker Pro's. The Burstbucker 2 is a lot like a Classic 57 and has a medium wind. -- Deeper gold Reverb is a marketplace bringing together a wide-spanning community to buy, sell, and discuss all things music gear. Followers 0. Kommander Registrierter Benutzer. Discussion in 'Tone Zone' started by ChasFred, Oct 22, 2016. Pasted as rich text. Quick Links. × Before the humbucker existed, single coil pickups were the norm. As far as the VOS vs. Mit Liebe serviert! Does it matter? Oh, sorry if i confused you. I know that the patch chord I was using had a short but, that required me to fiddle with to keep it from cutting out, but I don't think that was the tonal issue I heard. Support Tools . Clean tone A-B comparison of Gibson 490r and Burstbucker #1 humbuckers. I would describe them as essentially a very aggressive Burstbucker 1/2 combo. The 57 Classics have even turns on both coils of each pickup, which will lend itself to a "smoother" tone in general. In other words, in the real world, no PAFs met Seth’s By submitting this form you are agreeing to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy. Two of the most popular of these variants, appearing on stock ES-335s and Les Paul Standards respectively, are ’57 Classics and Burstbucker Pros. the 57s are darker and smoother and far better for jazz imo they are also more consistent- the bb's are randomly wound (within parameters) in an attempt to recreate the variation found amoung the hand wound PAF originals upon which they are based- therefore bbs can be a bit hit and miss. Burstbucker 1 2 3 has the alnico 2 magnet and DC resistance 8.4K, 8.7K, 9.1K The Burstbucker Pro are like the Burstbucker 1 & 2 but with Alnico 5 magnets. I also wanted to get a sense if this assessment would generally hold up for a 57 classic + vs burstbucker 2 comparison. I played a VOS SG with the BB 1 and 2's in it the other day into a fender bassman reissue. It comes with the 57 Classic pups. Im Grunde handelt es hier um eine getunte Version des 57 Classic. Which is which? I love them. I have a 2017 SG T on the way. Can't say if it sounds more vintage or what, but the more I'm playing old school Rock, the more I like the BBs. You can post now and register later. check out the. Jan 6, 2009 #1 I would like to get some opinions on the difference between these two kinds of pickups. the classic 57's are a little hotter than the burst buckers. Burstbuckers 1 & 2 VS the 57 classic Sign in to follow this . Les Paul Forum Homesite What is often called the "classic Les Paul sound" from records from the late sixties early seventies is due to the kind of metal used to make the pickups, which made them sound a certain way regardless of resistance values and magnet grades. Dealer Locator Online Dealers Dealer Resource Center. the neck felt rounder and thicker too, which I kinda liked, but don't know if it is better or not. The pickup has Alnico2 magnets for a more vintage style tone. I had Lollars imperials which gave something very similar. Burstbucker 1 & 2 VS 57 Classic and Classic +, Miscellaneous Music Related Items For Sale / Trade, If this is your first visit, be sure to The C57s sounded straight and compressed and that wasn't unexpected, but to my surprise, it sounded too thin in bridge, and sort of 'modern'. Burstbuckers 1 & 2 VS the 57 classic. But, I wanted to get a sense from the forum if you agree with my general assessment (thick and warm vs thinner and more aggressive). Yeah, it's just like salt; all in each persons taste. I know the description calls them 2 conductor, has any one … Like extreme feedback or noise. Your previous content has been restored. Ein Burstbucker ist ein Tonabnehmer, der mit seiner besonderen Bauweise als eine Art Hommage an die ersten Humbucker von Gibsonentwickelt worden ist. But once you start messing around with independent pickup winders, your BBs will sit in a box, I think that different pups are for different taste. 5, 27.01.17 Sponsored by . I found what I wanted. However, back in the day no pickups were ever made to that exact spec; the technology of the ’50s and early ’60s meant that the two coils of wire in each pickup were more or less unbalanced, the magnets varied, the types of magnets varied over the years, and so on. 496R und 500T sind keramische Pickups. I like the BB's on my les paul but it also has a maple top so it might be hard to compare, 57's are popular with hollowbodys. Scroll Down And Click On All Of Our Sponsors' Logos For Their Websites! Classic 57, Classic57 plus, Burstbucker #1, #2 und #3, 490R und 490T sind allesamt Alnico 2- Pickups. I play really loud and yes the bb 1 and 3's are not potted and do squeal when played LOUD. It has BB 1 & 3 pups w/chrome covers. Gibson BurstBucker #1 NC Original Gibson Humbucker, der Sound der 50ziger "slightly underwound" mit einem glockig klaren Sound, Nickel Cover The amps, as vintage Fender and … I have the white sg with bb 1 and 3's. Anyone prefer the 57 classic and classic plus combo over the BB's? Well, the difference I heard had to be the pups, right. 61.........I like the neck joint on the VOS better...I don't know if it is the same as the 61 or not, but it is smooth and doesn't have the edge like the 61' does. Die Burstbucker wurden angeblich schon Mitte der 90er im Custom Shop auf Anfrage eines betuchten japanischen Sammlers entwickelt. Contact Us You cannot paste images directly. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > ChasFred Member. Burstbucker#2: is wound in the range of Gibson's '57 Classic, with slightly hotter "vintage" output than the BurstBucker#1. The c57 did their magic on my Explorer pro, but on the SG, it didn't make a huge difference with stock 498/490, so I gave the BBs 1/2 a try. Board-Mitarbeiter. It a matter of what do you like the most. Copyright 2019 Gibson Brands, Inc. All rights reserved. von Kommander, 26.01.17. Gibson Pickups comparison with 1991 Les Paul Custom 57 classic - burstbucker 1 & 2 - 490R 498T - 496R 500T × Beliebte Beiträge ★ 1 ★ für peerteer Beitrag Nr. Zum ersten Mal wurden diese Pickups in der Gary-Moore-Signature-LesPaul verwendet. I have the 2010 with BB1/3 and coil taps. The '57's sound fuller than BB1 and BB3 (to me of course!). Top Served with love! vBulletin_init(); Burstbucker 1 & 2 VS 57 Classic and Classic + How do you guys like the BB 1 and 2 combo that is coming stock in historics? I'm not sure, but is there a difference in the pots and caps between teh 61R and the VOS? I have the Gibson 490T in the neck and it does everything, from superclean beatifull sound to 100% high gain, the single notes are clear all the time, never muddy or so. Thread starter 1956tvmodel; Start date Jan 6, 2009; 1956tvmodel Junior Member. I love my 498 and 490 in my STD, maybe I'll change them someday, but I'm more likely to experiment with new pups in my Godin Freeway than I am my SG. They aren't harsh but they definitely push the amp more than standard Burstbuckers or '57 Classics, especially in the SG. My take, was that the BB's were much fuller and rounder sounding....just bigger and warmer to my ears. So the ’57 Classic is true to how Seth designed the PAF pickup. The 57's seemed very trebly and thin by comparison. US & Canada: 1-800-4GIBSON. Link to post Share on other sites. What I see on this forum more and more is akin to little girls playing dress up with their dolls, getting them ready for some tea party. Burstbucker#1: is slightly underwound, with medium "vintage" output, and works well in both bridge and neck positions. Sie helfen uns dabei, Ihnen passende Angebote zu zeigen, merken sich Einstellungen, die Sie auf unserer Seite treffen und machen uns darauf … Thanks Jojo, I was afraid of that. I also had a strat and a tele custom with BB 1 & 2. Sorry about the thread hijack. Upload or insert images from URL. I had a LP with bb pros ( other guitarist in my band still has his ) and those are the bb's to go with imo. the 61 had a thinner feel but is nice as well. Burstbucker Pro und 498T sind Alnico 5- Pickups. Doesn't sound thin at all to me. Gibson BurstBucker #2 die Weiterentwicklung des 57 -Classic Humbucker, mit ein wenig mehr Output,schwarz. Gibson Pickups Comparison Test Demo - 57 Classic - BurstBucker 1 & 2 - 490R 498T - 496R 500T - Duration: 2:10. Sie sind heute Standard in allen Historic Collection Les Pauls. then I'm not crazy then....as I thought the same thing. Soon after I've received my Std, I've change the stock pickups for C57/c57+. And the Burstbucker 3 which I am reviewing is the hottest of the 3 and is pretty much a bridge only pickup. Tipps & Tricks Fragen (FAQ) Regeln. By ironlung40 , ... and I demand a round, fat tone from my Gibsons, so Id go Burstbucker. i I found the sound (on full humbucking mode) to be much thinner than my SG STD with 490R/498T. BB 1. I have found that I like my Les Paul with the Gibson '59 … // Main vBulletin Javascript Initialization They were great, apart from the fact that they create a hum that came through the amp. . Has anyone had an issue because of this. Product Registration Customer Service Repair and Restoration Report Counterfeits Serial Number FAQ Gibson Guitar Specs (2015-2019) Dealer Resource Center; Locate A Dealer; Looking for Something Specific? Your link has been automatically embedded. Of course some was darker, some hotter, some brighter, but there was a common character due to the metal. The biggest difference between these pickups will come down to the winding. This guitar of course, has the 57 classics. Does my assessment seem typical to any of you that have also played the VOS and 61 reissue with these pickups or was something amiss when I played? But I just bought an R8 custom shop - and it has the bb 1 and 2 (potted) and it is the best sounding guitar I have played in a long time. BB 1. 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